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>> marcus bachmann wrote an open letter to conservatives describing his wife, michele, as rock solid. yeah. probably not helping was that he then wrote, as rock solid as taylor lautner's yummy abs. >> if it's friday the late night comedians get "the last word." have the last word online at lastword@msnbc.com. follow my tweets tthd@lawrence. thanks to you at home for joining us this week. one story list week almost made it into the best new thing in the world today but got cut at the last minute because something better came along. a story about an arkansas high school marching band turning up at the house of one of their player's grandmothers because grandmother was too ill to go to the game. i still love that story. go, rogers heritage high school. what roger heritage high school
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of arkansas pushed out of the best new thing in the world segment that day, what got cut from the marching band segment, is what mediaite highlighted as when horrible people unite. when the president of iran spoke at the united nations last week the main news he made, of course, is that everybody walked out on him again like they pretty much always do now whenever he speaks in public. quoting from "the guardian" newspaper reporting on the walkout, u.s. diplomats were first to leave when ahmadinejad referred to the mysterious september 11th incident as a pretext to attack afghanistan and iraq. the mysterious september 11th incident. good-bye, mahmoud. see you later. u.s. first then essentially all the western countries get up and weak out of the u.n. while he is talking. the when horrible people fight part of all this is that the other folks who got very mad at
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the president of iran for being a 9/11 truther, for him suggesting that the u.s. government faked 9/11, for him suggesting that al qaeda didn't do 9/11. the other folks who got mad at him about that were al qaeda. al qaeda this week put auout th seventh issue of their oddly slick but poorly translated terrorist quarterly magazine which is called "inspire." the magazine includes this article complaining iran is subscribing to 9/11 conspiracy theories, calling president ahmadinejad of iran ridiculous for suggesting al qaeda shouldn't get all the credit it really, really wants for having done 9/11. iran's president denying that al qaeda did 9/11. al qaeda wanting credit for 9/11. you guys fight it out amongst yourselves. i'm going to watch and eat popcorn. that same issue of the al qaeda magazine has this at the end on the left hand side there. a blurry photo of people in what appears to be grand central
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terminal in new york city. plus this notice of an article by anwar al awlaki, on targeting the population of countries at war with the muslims. al qaeda in its magazine says as you can see, this article by anwar al awlaki is coming soon. no, it's not. not anymore. today the united states government announced anwar al awlaki was killed in yemen. it is understood to have been by a cia drone strike. killed along side awlaki was another star from the most recent issue of the al qaeda magazine, an author of an essay of how al ckqaeda is at propagaa and how bad the u.s. is. the author of the essay, sameer khan. he and awlaki reportedly killed today by a u.s. strike in yemen. both known for their role in al qaeda propaganda and importantly
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both americans. not just american born, as they're being described so often today, but americans. american citizens. >> now, i want to say a few words about some important news. earlier this morning anwar al awlaki, a leader of al qaeda in the arrabian peninsula, was killed in yemen. the death -- [ applause ] the death of awlaki is a major blow to al qaeda's most active operational affiliate. awlaki was the leader of external operations for al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. in that role he took the lead in planning and directing efforts to murder innocent americans. >> just days after the obama administration announced the death of osama bin laden in may of this year, a reported drone strike in yemen, reportedly very nearly killed anwar al awlaki.
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today they actually got him. a joint effort between the cia and joint special operations command. just as killing osama bin laden was. during the 2008 presidential campaign, republicans turned their typical anti-democrat soft on crime, soft on terrorism attack against candidate barack obama. they frequently used surrogates like rudy giuliani, new york city's mayor on 9/11, to accuse candidate barack obama of not having either the experience or the desire to fight al qaeda. >> what i do suggest is he doesn't have the experience to handle terrorism. i call it a pre-september 11th mentality that he wants to return to. >> the question is whether this is a man who has what it takes to protect america from osama bin laden, al qaeda and other grave threats in the world. and he has given you no reason to answer in the affirmative. >> the democrats want to go back to a pre-september 11th view of terrorism. what i call being on defense.
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this is not a realistic approach. time has proven that being on offense is better than being on defense. >> since barack obama was sworn into office in january, 2009, here's how that whole defense idea has turned out. in august 2009, u.s. forces killed the top leader of the pakistani taliban, a man they'd been hunting down for years. one month later u.s. forces kill not only the operational planner for one of the region's main terrorist networks but one of the main operations planners for al qaeda in east africa. three months later two more of al qaeda's top operational commanders are killed in pakistan. in february 2010, u.s. forces capture one of the cataliban's p military commanders in pakistan and killed two more terrorist leaders in the reechbgion. a month later obama administration knocks off two other leaders, one killed in pakistan and the man believed to be behind the 2002 bali nightclub bombings is killed in indonesia. one month after this, this time in iraq, u.s. forces killed two of the top leaders of al qaeda
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in iraq. the very next month an aerial drone strike in the tribal areas of pakistan kills al qaeda's number three commander. month later in pakistan, an al qaeda commander believed to be the head of the group of external operations. of course, the big one in may of this year. u.s. forces raid a house in abbotobad, pakistan, killing the head of al qaeda and its founding osama bin laden. one month later, a predator prone strike kills one of al qae qaeda's most experienced operational commanders in pakistan. three senior operatives chi do is killed. two months later a cia drone strike kills al qaeda's number two in the mountains of pakistan. earlier this month al qaeda's chief of operations in pakistan is killed right around the an versery, the ten year anniversary of 9/11. now today the man being described by the u.s. government as the chief of external operations for al qaeda's
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affiliate in yemen, the inspirational of voice of al qaeda in the arab peninsula, anwar al awlaki, killed by a drone strike in yemen. >> the question is whether this is a man who has what it takes to protect america from osama bin laden, al qaeda and other grave threats in the world. and he has given you no reason to answer in the affirmative. >> the democrats wan want to go back to a pre-september 11th -- what i call being on defense. this is not a realistic approach. time has proven being on offense is better than defense. >> anwar al awlaki may not have been a household name in america the way osama bin laden was. the number of plots he was believed to be involved in was said to have inspired, been linked to by u.s. officials. that is a very, very long list. the nigerian national who
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attempt to blow up an airliner in 2009, hid explosives in his underwear, told federal investigators he received direct instructions from anwar al awlaki during a trip to yemen the month before the attack. al awlaki was believed to be in contact with the army psychiatrist who was arrested after the mass shooting in ft. hood, texas, that killed 13 people in 2009. intelligence officials intercepted more than a dozen communications between that army major and al awlaki in the months before the shooting. officials believe nadal hassen attended some of awlaki's sermons. faisal shazad told officials that awlaki was the one who inspired his actions. the six men arrested for plotting to attract ft. dix in new jersey in 2005 were allegedly found to be in possession of one of awlaki's sermons. they were also reportedly recorded discussing the importance of awlaki's call for jihad against america. in october 2010, awlaki
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allegedly supervised a plot to blow up two american cargo planes to detonate ink cartridges. a british airlines worker who awlaki was believed to be in contact with was arrested and convicted of trying to get a bomb onboard a plane at london's heathrow airport. a seattle man arrested in june of this year in a plot to attack a military processing center in washington state with machine guns and grenades, federal assents say he was a devotee of awlaki. a baltimore man arrested in september charged with plotting to set off what he thought was a van full of explosives at a u.s. recruiting center was a follower of awlaki. you noticed a lot of allegedlies and reportedlies and believe to have been in that very long list. it sounds bad to have him associated with all of these things. but in terms of whether or not anwar al awlaki was directly responsible for any of those plots, there are a lot of allegations but none of those allegations was ever made in
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court. ma yemeni prosecutors charged awlaki in november with incitiig violence, sending internet messages to a 19-year-old in yemen, urging him to kill foreigners. aside from that, being try in absentia in yemen, u.s. officials never attempted to open up an indictment against him. the way they justified this killing is they put him on an assassination list. an assassination list that the president signed off on. that was the due process. again, yemen's official news agency says the u.s. drone strike that killed anwar al awlaki also killed khan which means the united states killed not only one american citizen today, but two. there are two big consequences for that. for us when we think about america in al qaeda. one is homegrown terrorism. people who are americans, not only lived here but have the
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benefits of american citizenship and that affords them access to potential targets in this cub country are part part of al qae qaeda. we're included in the tra transnational threat. consequence two, whether or not having u.s. citizenship should protect you from the kinds of extraordinary tactics that the united states government has used to fight al qaeda. can the united states government choose an american citizen to be executed without charging them with anything? without ever proving anything against them? without ever giving themselves a chance to defend themselves? in april 2010 awlaki was the first american citizen added to the cia's kill or capture list of most wanted terrorists. and whether or not you think it is deserved, under what authority did president obama or could any president sign him up to be killed on site? in response to being put on that list anwar al awlaki's father filed a lawsuit to prevent the
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united states from targeting his american son for killing. in december a federal district judge threw the father's case out of judge and said anwar al a awla awlaki's father did not have the authority to sue on his son's behalf because his son is a full grown man. joining us, spencer ackerman, senior reporter for wire.com's danger room. spenc spencer, good to have you with us to report on this. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> in announcement of awlaki's death, was there acknowledgement the u.s. could be in unchartered territory here? >> none at all. you can imagine president obama wanting to maintain that position as much as possible. this is an american citizen, two american citizens who have been killed. and if the president can avoid owning up to the thorny legal and moral implications of what happened today, probably the better for him. >> assassination is illegal by executive order in the united states. we are not suppose to carry that out as a matter of domestic policy or as a matter of foreign
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policy. i understand that people who believe this was legally, or that this was legal, believe that it was legal under the authorization of use of military force. that this was part of the war on al qaeda. does citizenship afford any meaningful distinction for that as a legal justification for killing? >> under the authority to use military force passed right after 9/11, no, there's no carveout. there's no mention of american citizenship. it's an exceptionally broad mandate from congress giving the president pretty much any power he wants to wage war anywhere around the globe. it's battlefield earth. and there's no really been any pressure from congress to restrict those powers in any way. the courts decided in the case you mentioned that they weren't going to sort of step in and say who the military or the president can target, so there's nothing to stop the president from deciding unilaterally who he wants to target. >> how important is it to know
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exactly what role a lwlaki had al qaeda and the franchise model we think of al qaeda as an inspiration for lone wolf terrorists or small cell-based terrorist groups. how important is it for us to know how that will be different without him, i guess, in terms of coming up with legal justification for how he was killed? >> it's crucial for a couple reasons. one is there's no declared war in yemen, right? we're not at war in yemen. there's never been any declaration there. so in order under international law for this to have been a legal action in yemen, there must be some standard of imminence according to most legal authorities in this sense. so if awlaki isn't part of some operational plot that's moving forward, it's an open legal question whether killing him was legal. then furthermore, this is an american citizen we're talking about. of them and samer khan.
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they're clearly guilty of inciteme incitement. see on any of awlaki's disgusting poisonous videos how they're trying to get americans to kill their fellow americans. on the other hand, there's absolutely no evidence ever been authored that either man was part of an operational cell of al qaeda or part of an unfolding plot. it's pure assertions. to kill an american without recourse to deproce procesdue p, is crossing the war of terrorism. >> in terms of the rubicon, if the u.s. government can justify it overseas, what about in the u.s.? the fbi is tracking people with possible ties to al qaeda and other forms of extremism. how close is this to the government claiming the right to kill first and ask questions later of u.s. citizens in the united states. >> right. i don't understand what the differentiating criterion could be. why in yemen and not yuma? if the important factor is that
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an american citizen can be targeted for destruction, why not just fly a drone over the next, you know, plot that, you know, like we heard this week that guy from massachusetts was apparently trying to pull off. why even bother arresting an american citizen at all? >> spencer ackerman, senior reporter for "danger room" and somebody who's been doing i think very clarifying and well informed work about this today. spencer, thanks very much for helping us figure it out. some news you can use now. for our viewers in the great state of ohio, starting today, if you are in a drinking establishment, you might consider investing in a metal detector. or brushing up on your pat-down skills? some notable firearms and liquor news coming up for you shortly. ♪ when the things that you need ♪ ♪ come at just the right speed, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ medicine that can't wait legal briefs there by eight, ♪ ♪ that's logistics. ♪
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to rumors came back from the dead today. hooray. "the star ledger" in new jersey today reporting today despite firm evidence to the contrary governor christie is seriously considering running for president in 2012. still an anonymous source, naturally, close to the governor, naturally, telling "the ledger" in the last week mr. christie has been swayed from his earlier refusals to run by an aggressive draft christie effort by republicans and donors unhappy with the existing gop field. now, it is impossible to say whether or not the republican field is actually going to get any bigger. as far as chris christie goes, there's no reason to put anymore faith in this current round of excited rumors about him than any of the previous rounds of excited rumors about him. the excited rumors, themselves, are evidence of something. they're evidence of just how unhappy republicans are right now with their options. the mike huckabee rumor, for example, started with the report in "reuters" that begins like this. "mike huckabee has been approached by conservative activists unhappy with the
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current crop of republican and presidential hopefuls sources tell reuters." conservative activists not happy with their choices, i think that means you, rick perry. maybe they have caught up with ten things about rick perry that worry conservatives as "the houston chronicle" posted recently. as for chris christie, the rumors he might someday decide to run though he said a thousand times, those rumors crop back up because of the establishment republican party's effort to draft him. he's got nancy reagan reportedly telling him to run. barbara bush calling his wife and telling her that she should tell him to run. george pataki going public with his effort to convince chris christie to run. it's as if the republican party, which by the way has a full complement of well known and established candidates to choose from, it's as if the republican party is waiting for the real race to begin, waiting for better options to show up. a major republican donor tell g ing "the new york times" this week "there's enough chatter and
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phone calls and static, whatever you call it in the spy business, that everyone is sitting around. there's no confusion among the main donors. no one has signed up with either major campaign in the last three weeks. ""that would be you, romney and perry. they're waiting for something better to come along because they don't think you're good enough. the republican conservative establishment is not happy. they're so unhappy they're try to draft new candidates to run against each other. the republicans are trying to find both an establishment candidate who is not mitt romney and nonestablishment candidate who is not rick perry. the party is still churning in other words. eventually it is going to have to come together behind one candidate. the party establishment and the conservatives are going to have to agree on someone. and it will happen. one way or another. because as the saying goes, democrats fall in love and republicans fall in line. who are they going to fall in line behind? how are they going to come to agreement about who it's going to be? one of the ways that will happen
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is through events like this one coming up next weekend in washington. the values voter summit. as you can see, most of the major republican candidates are going to be there. not just the really fringey right wing ones. mitt romney is going to be there. this year if you check out the schedule you'll see mitt romney is scheduled to speak an saturday right before a man named brian fisher. remember, remember, remember our old pal brian fisher? >> we should not allow muslims to serve in the u.s. military and we have got to raise questions about who we can afford to allow muslims to emigrate into the united states at all. president barack obama nurtures a hatred for the united states of america and the white man. i do question the patriotism of groups like planned parenthood. they're subverting morality. liberals in the united states of america hate the declaration of independence. counterfeit religions,
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alternative religions to christianity have no first amendment right to the free exercise of religion. permits, in my judgment, should not be granted to build even one more mosque in the united states of america. not one. ladies and gentlemen, we are going to have to choose as a nation between the homosexual agenda and freedom. because the two cannot co-exist. >> that last bit about the homosexual agenda being at odds with freedom, that came from brian fisher's speech at last year's values voter summit. this year's scheduled lineup, again, lists mitt romney followed immediately by brian fisher. that is particularly awkward this year because not only has brian fisher been outlandishly all caps bigoted against every other group in america you can think of, but as the folks at "right wing watch" have been pointing out, fisher is bigoted against the mormon church and mormons. brian fisher had said the first amendment should not by papply
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mormons. they don't believe they should be able to speak about it freely in america. brian fisher is scheduled to speak right after mitt romney who's a mainstream republican presidential candidate, also a mormon. author frank schaffer is a predecessor of the self-described values voter. his father was a seminal figure of the christian conservative movement of the 1970s and 1980s. it would not exist in the way it does today if francis schaffer had not made it show. frank schaffer himself was an evangelical in those days. he parted ways with his fathers 20 years ago. like the value voters summit and proximity of presidential front-runner in the republican party to people like brian fisher, frank schaffer knows of what he speaks. how do you top great vacations? whoa. getting twice the points on great vacations. whoa! use chase sapphire preferred and now get
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joining us tonight for the interview, frank schaffer, who's father helped form the evang evangelical and far right. his latest book called "sex mom and god: how the bible's strange take on sex led to crazy politics and how i learned to love women and jesus anyway." frank schaffer, it's nice to have you back on the program. thanks for being here. >> hi, rachel, nice to be with you. >> the values voters summit is happening next week. it has become a mainstream republican event now. attendance more or less expected of establishment republicans. all the candidates i think except for jon huntsman will be
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attending this event next week. when they go, they'll be sharing the stage with people like brian fisher and the american family association. what to you think that does with the politics of the republican party? >> well, i think there's a simple way to put it. and that is this is religion masquerading as politics. and what happened, you know, you introduced me before the break as someone who had been part of the religious right at the very beginning, especially in the antiabortion movement. what we did back in the '70s and '80s was simply first of all to be agitators knocking on the door of the republican party. if you update to the present moment with candidates like rick perry, michele bachmann running and the values conference, people like brian fisher now showing up on the same platform as these candidates, you realize that those of us who used to be agitators on the outside have now become the insiders actually running for office. and so i think people make a
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mistake by not realizing these are very serious folks. what they're serious about it not politics. i think that's where the mainstream media really misunderstands the situation. they're serious about religion. you have two kinds of republicans running. you have mitt romney who has to pretend he is serious about introducing a theocracy to the united states with his litmus test of moral values. and then the true believers like michele bachmann and rick perry and then the agitators who come in to rev them up like brian fisher. i say, again, it's religion masquerading as politics. the goal is thee ok ocracy rath than democracy. when they talk about coming back to the bible, they mean imposing biblical law in a form of christian evangelical sharia here in the united states and so that is the world these folks are trying to create. i just hope we wake up and realize this and stop looking at all this in bits and pieces and understand there's a real agenda here. >> in terms of the immediate
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effect on republican politics, there are two republican presidential candidates who are mormons, john hun huntsman and romney. jon huntsman won't be attending the event but mitt romney will be speaking next to brian fisher on the agenda. they're adjacent on the schedule. what should we understand about the interaction of mitt romney's faith and people like brian fisher and the american family association and folks you're describing with these politics, their feelings about the mormon faith and its freedom of religion? >> well, you know you have to look at john mccain to understand. remember 2000, john mccain called these folks agents of intolerance. and then in the next election totally sold out and nominated one of them as his running mate so he could get the backing of people like focus on the family, the families values guy, brian fisher and so forth, anti-gay, antiabortion, et cetera, et cetera. when you look at huntsman,
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conclude maybe he's still both sane and has some integrity. mitt romney is probably sane but has to pretend he's one of them and has to pretend he likes it. he'll stand up there and chuckle and it will be like an act that he's putting on. who knows what he really believes, but he certainly is identified as a mormon. and the folks he's standing up there with regard mormons not just as herotics but nonchristians altogether. there's no way around this. so, you know, in the evangelical vote that has told itself lies about barack obama consistently, in their mind it would be a choice if romney was running between the mormon and the muslim. that's how they'd see it. and in the lying world of evangelical propaganda politics they'd look at these two people as outsiders. the republican party has a problem with their mormon candidates. that is, you know, they're in a party where one of mccain's
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backers until he dumped him, john hagey in houston. look, when rick perry launches his presidential campaign with a prayer meeting and has people so fringed associating with him theologically, most right wing evangelicals disassociate from that, you know something is going on i say it's religion masquerading as politics. the agenda of the religious right is the theocracy in the united states of america. they wrapped themselves in the flag but the america they support is an america that doesn't exist. it's one without immigration. it's one without black people. it's one without gay people. it's one without women having a right to choose. it's one where the whites remain forever in the majority. and as this america slips away, what you really see is part of the larger story that you were referring to at the beginning of this program, with the war on terror continuing. and that is the real story
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worldwide, a collision course between fundamentalist religion of all kinds, not just christianity, and reason and science and modernity and progress. and in america, it's being fought out in the trenches, in the republican party which is having within its ranks the same kind of civil war as is going on in the islamic community where you have moderate muslims trying to reclaim something of their islamic heritage from fanatics. here in america the fanatics have taken over the republican party. that's where we are today. and so the fanaticism is based on a kind of sexual dysfunction. you were talking about the subtitle of my book "sex mom and god." i talk about how crazy ideas about sex led to crazy politics. look where all these trails lead back to. gay rights. sex. homosexuality as they would call it. gay rights about sex. all of this stuff is to do with a culture war that has its end destination, an end position of
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theocracy in america. that's what they're about these days. >> frank schaffer, author of the book "sex mom and god." thanks, frank, for joining us tonight. >> thanks a lot. thanks a lot. cocktail moment needed after that, right? also and gun news. those two things coming up together. cocktails and guns. happy friday. [ male announcer ] this is lara. her morning begins with arthritis pain. that's a coffee and two pills. the afternoon tour begins with more pain and more pills. the evening guests arrive. back to sore knees. back to more pills. the day is done but hang on... her doctor recommended aleve. just 2 pills can keep arthritis pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is lara who chose 2 aleve
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quick follow-up to a story we've been covering for a long time now. the efforts of republican-controlled states this year to make it harder to vote. making you have to show i.d. you never had to show before and not everyone has in order to vote now. making it impossible to do voter registration drives to sign up new voters. not letting you register before the election anymore. shutting down and shortening early voting. one state where republicans are try to shut down early voting is ohio, where that state's recent history with people having to go to heroic lengths in order to vote might make you want to make voting easier, not harder. from republicans' perspective, too many people might be able to vote and you can't have that. republicans in the ohio legislature passed the kill early voting bill earlier this year. ohio republican governor john kasich signed it into law. yesterday ohioans trying to save early voting delivered this
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before barack obama was elected president, the national rifle association posted this warning for its members. it's a list of ten ways the president obama would quote/unquote change the second amendment. politico posted this back in 2008. their list, their warning includes a ban on the use of fi firearms to defend yourself in your own home and closing 90% of the gun shops in america. that's what the nra said that barack obama would do if he were elected president. scary stuff for nra members. enraging stuff. so barack obama does, in fact, get elected president and as president he ends up saying very little and doing even less about gun laws. his most notable act with regard to guns so far has been signing a bill that allows you to carry a gun in national parks. now, it should be noted that gun control proponents are not all that happy with this part of the obama presidency. this part where he's doing almost nothing about guns kpe st allowing more of them in places
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they didn't used to be allowed. you know who else isn't happy about it? the nra. nra vice president wayne lapierre says you can tell president obama is coming for your guns by the way he's not coming for your guns. watch. >> so when he got elected, they concocted a scheme to stay away from the gun issue. lull gun owners to sleep and play us for fools in 2012. well, gun owners are not fools. and we are not fooled. we see the president's strategy crystal clear. get re-elected and with no more elections to worry about, get busy dismantling and destroying our firearms freedom. erase the second amendment from the bill of rights and exercise it from the u.s. constitution. that's their agenda. >> the nra says the they you can tell obama is coming for your
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guns is he's not coming for your guns. it's genius. that is the insane paranoid message from the nra this year. in the context of debate over guns in this country broadly speaking, mat speech passes for reasonable almost. republican congressman joe walsh told a tea party group this week in illinois that illinois needs a concealed weapons law. why? because "the most important amendment in the bill of rights is the second amendment. it protects every other amendment. it's the last line of defense between us and our government." thank god for the guns that americans have between us and our government. not to remind the congressman of work when it's almost the weekend, but congressman joe walsh, you're a congressman. you are the government. you ran for office, got elected, joined the government. there is no between you and the government unless you're a way more complicated person than i understood and you should get help. wait, i can even top that. you have heard in recent months about an undercover program
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co-named fast and furious at the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. atf agents tracked guns as they were sold illegally so they could catch mexican drug lords who were buying the illegal guns. 2,000 of the guns ended up loose on the streets at the time and a border agent was killed at a scene where fast and furious guns were found. in covering the fast and furious story, the fox news channel used as their on air authority on this story a man named mike vanderboegh who says the whole thing is a obama administration conspiracy against the second amendment somehow which, well, whatever. that's his conspiracy theory. more importantly, do you remember who mike vanderboegh is? his name is mike vanderboegh, the former leader of a group called the alabama constitutional militia. vanderboegh has been advocating people throw bricks through the windows of democratic party headquarters all across the
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country and wants credit apparently whenever anyone follows his advice. on his block last week, he wrote an aint democrat manifesto that included this call to action. we can break their windows before can break their windows before we have to resort to rifles to resist their well-intentioned tir 18. they are not far away from where you are reading this and ery city and county in the land, there is a local headquarters of pelosi's quarter, the democrat party. the headquarters have windows so if you wish to send a message, break their windows and run to break again. break them under cover of night and break them in brought daylight. break them with rocks and slingshots and baseball bats, but break them. take your children and grandchildren into your own two hands and act. it is more humane than shooting in self defense. if we break the windows of
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hundreds of thousands of democrat party headquarters across the country, we may wake up enough to make defending ourselves atted the muzzle of a rifle necessary. break your windows, break them now. he made the solicitation from alabama where he resides and from where he expound about the government's secret plots to assert control over your live and kill you. that was our show's reporting for when democratic party offices like geab giffords's office in arizona. when they had their windows smashed. the break the windows, break them now guy is who fox news is using as the on air authority as the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms today. with politics like these, conservative politics like these, nothing can get done
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about guns and gun laws. when americans put their minds to it, it's not unusually the kind that make us feel safer. starting today, you can carry a concealed weapon into a bar. tuck it into your pocket and walk into the watering hole. if you are carrying a concealed weapon into a bar, you are not allowed to drink alcohol. who is going to check for guns with every order? the bar keep? the bouncer? you have to empty your pockets. turn around and let me pat you down. here's the bud light, but i have to wand you. if you have a concealed weapon, who is going to volunteer to take the hammered guy's gun away then? somebody sober on the next barstool with human own gun? what could possibly go wrong in ohio starting today? up next, a cocktail moment involving guns and alcohol, but not bullets. not even shot glasses.
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. >> today at the news meeting for the show, we talked about the assassination in yemen and how it happened and the politics and the legality of it. we talked about the 2012 politics, the mike huckabee rumor and it is chris christie rumors and all of the candidate who is try not to seem crazy have a religious right and they get themselves up on stage with brian fisher of all people next week. the guy who thinks america should wage war on demon grizzly bears. look it up. we talked about admiral mullen and big news. a lot to talk about. we got hung up in the news meeting. we couldn't get past ohio's new
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law that goes into effect today. thanks to legislate skpur a new governor in the great state of ohio that makes you legal for you to take a concealed hand gun into a bar, but it is illegal to keep having that gun in the bar if once you are in the bar you elect to have a drink. in trying to imagine exactly how ohio's poor cocktail waitresses and bartenders have to enforce this genius move, our discussion turned to the fact that there very, very few good drinklesses named after weaponry. they are named after grenades and bombs of various kinds, but if you want a good drink that is named after a deadly weapon, it's the french 75. they allegedly named after the french 75 millimeter field gun that fired very, very fast for its day and shot very, very big
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rounds. now, it's not totally clear that what that big gun has to do with the drink, but it was being used around the time that is got invent and it had champagne and that's good enough for me. a half ounce of lemon juice that has to come from a lemon distressing as that may be. half ounce of lemon juice out of about a half lemon. ice in the cocktail shaker, half ounce of simple syrup which is equal parts of sugar and water. this is why this is brown. lemon and sugar and then 1 1/2 ounces of booze. some make it with gin and some make it can with cognac. it is more correct to make it with gin. i like cognac. sue me. it's not traditional or correct, but it's tastier and brown liquor makes you tough. you snake up with ice, pardon
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me. what have we learned? you have to shake until it hurts your hand. strain into a champagne glass or any other glass you can find around that hopefully has a stem. it stays cold even when you hold it in your hot little hands. top with champagne. that's going to tip over. sorry. then you top with a lemon twist. the way you make it is by cutting a long thin swath. you want the lemon oily part. this takes care of the fuzz on top of the champagne. watch. drop it in for a french 75. this is to